A Debate with a Coon & a Bed Wench

Uncle Tom syndrome :

is a concept in psychology.[1] It refers to a coping skill where individuals use passivity and submissiveness when confronted with a threat, leading to subservient behaviour and appeasement, while concealing their true thoughts and feelings. (-On a deeper level I think many of these individuals actually feel love, affection and a longing to be like the oppressor group) The term Uncle Tom comes from the title character of Harriet Beecher Stowe‘s novel Uncle Tom’s Cabin,

-I’d like to state I think the term Uncle Tom shouldn’t be used as a pejorative term for sell outs because in the book Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Tom dies from being beaten by slave masters before he will tell on two escaped slaves)

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One thing that can irk (& sadden) a conscious Black person such as my self is running into Blacks who posses an uncle tom mentality. I recently ran into two such persons on the Internet & their inability to deal with actual facts simultaneously frustrated and amused me. When ever your debating with someone and their response to facts that you’ve presented is “so what?” the debate is over. You’ve won and the person your debating with is operating solely on emotion. This is what eventually happened with the “coon” I was debating with. As for the “Bed Wench” she blocked me then posted comments smearing my character. I’ve reposted the whole diatribe below. I actually thought the coon was really a White guy trolling the comment thread but he actually is Black …. and probably gay..i mean just watch his vids and you tell me

This all began when I  had made a comment to another poster then the bed wench jumped in with her two cents

Hugh Cipher

Hugh Cipher3 weeks ago

Hugh Cipher1 month ago (edited)

+gomasonpatriot1 I agree in part that both brothers wish to “fix” the Black community but what Jesse Lee fails to understand is the culpability of systemic racism  and that we must teach our people to be on guard for efforts to destabilize our efforts for success. I mean from housing red lining ,employment discrimination, unfair educational practices we have to form our own country with in this country to survive the onslaught of White supremacy. We most definitely cant ignore it

(Now enters the bed wench)

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Hillary For Prison

Hillary For Prison1 month ago

+Hugh Cipher – Tariq is a fraud calling himself a “relationship expert” when he deals with strippers, prostitutes,etc being a married man. Dude is bad news. For sure he is NOT trying to fix the Black community. Only thing he’s trying to “fix,” is his bank account off the backs of Black folks. Gimme a break. I can respect Peterson or anyone who acknowledges openly that Black folks are NOT on this earth to flunky to any pre-disposed cause, being yassa massa to the Demon-Crap-ic party and knowing the standard reality is we can pick any party + vote for anyone we darn well please. I’m not beholden to any slave master white OR Black. However, that’s what these so-called Black leaders are expecting. They can take a flying leap at the moon. I don’t follow a darn thing they tell me to do.

Hugh Cipher

Hugh Cipher3 weeks ago

+Hillary For Prison you’ve got it totally misconstrued. If your some Black Republican your following a “demonic” party. your very screen name advocates for #HillaryClinton to go to jail but #DonaldTrump has committed fraud,sexual abuse,crooked tax practices & is being charged for raping a 13 yr old. All of this & you cry for Hillary to go to jail for some emails? Seriously? Tariq advocates Black pride & knowledge of self. What self respecting Afro American would have a problem with this? I dont care about Tariq going to a strip club anymore than those angry White racist #Trump supporters care about trump grabbing a handful of pussy. Blacks must learn to do for self & the majority of us will only be able to do so by understanding our history & understanding this racist system will always throw road blocks infront of us in attempts to stop our success. Understanding this is the only way to be on gaurd for this. Blacks (if you are Black) such as your self dont understand you’ve achieved success(if you are successful) inspite of this system not because of it. Most Blacks can’t kill their souls by becoming uncle tom minded subservient drones nor would this insure our success. Not when all of the systemic oppression still exist that keeps our success in check. Our family values were destroyed by this racist system. Not to recognize this is delusional

Hillary For Prison

Hillary For Prison1 month ago

+Hugh Cipher “Some Black Republican?” Thanks for helping me make my point! I have/never will let anyone or group force me into a label or boxed category. If that’s your gig, good for you! But you can’t impose or guilt me into that. Too bad other Black folks fall for that garbage, remain mentally enslaved to frauds, phony “conscious” fools screaming about the “white man.” Meanwhile, they are robbing their own people blind who remain MORE disenfranchised by dealing with so-called “pro-Blacks” who are nothing but pimps, frauds, schemers. But guess what? I NEVER gave any of the nuts ½ second of my time but still made it through school, started my own biz. I married someone with the same mindset and we’re raising our kids to be no one’s fool, like we both were raised. Live doesn’t have to include the misery of brainwashing and indoctrination, like you’re in. You folks are nuts, especially defending these frauds. It makes 0 difference what you say about Trump or whoever. What? You expect me to cry or something? I worship no one on earth and my family is priority #1, not the thieving pimps & frauds you worship!

Hugh Cipher

Hugh Cipher1 month ago (edited)

+Hillary For Prison lmao ok uuhh thank you for making “my” point.  ” I have/never will let anyone or group force me into a label or boxed category”  -ha man you are in a box and it has ” Tom ” on the label. All toms think since they made it through this White supremacist system all brothers and sisters should be able to skate through it. What you toms don’t realize is that you are the exceptions to the rule and that you’d probably be further along what ever career path you’ve taken. You sound crazy frothing at the mouth about a Black man who promotes pride of self and learning your own history with out a Eurocentric skew. I don’t have to agree with every thing Tariq says to acknowledge the valid points he makes. You speak of brainwashing and indoctrination but your mind set is programmed by White supremacy. Actually man I doubt know if your actually Black or if your some alt- right White troll but again your screen name proves my point…crying for a lady to go to jail when the presidents a sexual pervert and pathological liar …..yeah you got nerve calling someone brainwashed

Hillary For Prison

Hillary For Prison1 month ago (edited)

+Hugh Cipher – If you don’t pay your personal of biz taxes and wanna risk prison; that’s your biz. As I said before; no amount of name-calling in the world will ever guilt or shame me away from the path I took or am on. Thankfully; found/met a man just like me; able to set our 4 sons up for life; done by MAKING our own money…not GIVING money to Afro-Svengalis trying to guilt call us w/uncle toms, coons, agents. etc.; shyt is tired + as old as the hills. Funny how so many bum azz Negroes tried to get this; “uncle tom, coon, agent” $$ + tried to move into this “uncle tom, coon, agent ” 3 bedroom town home just when I was single. Yeah right! I sold that bad boy when I got married & the $$ is still collecting interest, & contributes to the pool of savings for our sons as each was born. Do you ever do stuff like this? Oh…no, I forgot; “the white man” won’t let you. Go ahead be poor and the gov chase you for not paying child support. My husband supports his sons; as do I.

Hugh Cipher

Hugh Cipher3 weeks ago

+Hillary For Prison 1st is this a typo? ” If you don’t pay your personal of biz and wanna risk prison; that’s your biz” I’m not sure what your getting at. Don’t think just because I talked about tom’s being “successful” means I or other conscious brothers are not. Hey you have a great family “a mansion and a yatch” Like I said not everyone’s held totally back by White Supremacy and remove it a person like you possibly would have achieved more. Also i’m not going to run through my resume’ in a competition with you on the net because hey people can be what ever they type on the net but I will say I am secure and my profession(s) are coveted by many. Unlike you I’ve been able to achieve my success with out selling my soul our spreading a life philosophy that doesn’t do the average Afro-American any good because it identifies with the oppressor and the majority of brothers and sisters cant stomach that nor are they in the position to feel in such a way being that far to many take the brunt of systemic racism. You fail to realize your good fortune and you seem to be angry at the Tariq types as if your White…this is strange to say the least

(Now enters the  Coon)

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CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe

CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe1 month ago

+Hillary For Prison Agreed.

                      

Hillary For Prison

Hillary For Prison1 month ago (edited)

Hillary For Prison1 month ago

+Hugh Cipher – Good fortune? No it’s NOT “good fortune.” It is HARD freakin WORK. Not a freakin thing was ever given to me (or my husband. I had my 1st job at 14. He at 16. Both went to college; met well later on in life. That’s what I don’t get. Who stops people from doing the same? No one. Mo-fos DECIDE to start robbing/stealing; whatever they do illegally. That’s such B.S. about the “white man.” Yeah; they fk w/us. But they can not STOP us literally. I wish any one of our 4 boys would start doing any of that shyt. None of me/7 sibs did that shyt either. No one in my husband’s family either. So why the fk are we gonna put up with that shyt from our sons? Are you crazy? “So you’re into those pro-Hack (not pro Black) and unconscious (not conscious) money grubbers mode Meanwhile, we’re into security for our/our sons’ future. That’s why we worked so hard; w/o those frauds, like Tariq “crooked advice.” A freakin yacht?” That’s your gig, not ours. We spend money on sports. A 3 bedroom town house is a “mansion? Hardly! Nor is a 4 bedroom house, one which our boys would rather share rooms vs move out. You’re stuck in that money mode. That’s the brainwashing of frauds like Tariq $$$; always, beggin’, borrowing, stealing, demanding, jackin up Black folks for money & he gets people like you do it for him; sing his praises. Then he goes & spends it on hookers & sex workers + he’s married. He’s nothing but another umar johnson. You can’t see the scam? It’s soo obvious!!

Hugh Cipher

Hugh Cipher3 weeks ago

Hugh Cipher1 month ago (edited)

+Hillary For Prison oh? no good fortune? Was your mother a crack addict? Did you grow up in a gang infested neighborhood? Were you raised in a single parent home?  Did you see your friends slaughtered by gang violence? I have no idea how old you are but if your in your 30’s you lived through the beginnings of the crack era and either you didn’t live in the ghetto or you had support structures around you that assisted you in escaping the pitfalls of the ghetto.  Of course hard work is to be saluted but where you are born and who your parents are and were you grow up at are things you had no control over and either your childhood was serendipitous or it was calamitous or various portions of both.Your works are your works but faith is rewarded by God and one needs both faith and works to succeed. oh by the way “A mansion and a yacht” was just a euphemism …I didn’t mean you literally had a mansion and a yacht

                      

Hillary For Prison 

Hillary For Prison1 month ago

+Hugh Cipher Life comes with challenges; no matter where one lives. It’s not restricted to people living in rough neighborhoods whether or not the were in good or bad neighborhoods.

                      

Hugh Cipher

Hugh Cipher3 weeks ago

Hugh Cipher1 month ago (edited)

+Hillary For Prison true every ones life has challenges but things in rough or bad neighborhoods you  add violence ,drug addiction ,gangs and a nonchalant or even angry attitude opposed to education . I remember studying for exams while gun shots, loud music and arguments erupted outside my window. I remember being bullied and teased because I was smart and actually went to my classes with out cutting. I can say so much more but the hood made me tough. I resisted the peer pressure not to take my studies seriously and learned to fight and stand up to my bullies and this has helped me business and the office environment with both Black and White wanna be alpha males all to eager to push my buttons and under play me.. I had my slips and falls but I survived. I started an independent record company at the age of 18 and moved units by the 10’s of thousands…today I run a non profit and work for my city and county. I recognize my hard work but I also recognize my good fortune to have my mother and father to guide me through the jungle. I’m not a (moderately)successful person that looks at my brothers and sisters still in the struggle and think “hell I did it why cant they?” I understand most didn’t have my Cliff Huxtable like father and doting mother-both who helped me study and demanded I do my homework. I understand most didn’t have a work ethic instilled in them from a young age.  And note when  I say “successful” in regards to African Americans in a systemically racist system any person who has a job a place to stay and isn’t on drugs or in jail is successful. This is why I advocate knowledge of self and knowledge of the truth of this system because during the time of my fall only the knowledge of what this system really is saved me and stopped me from playing into the oppressor’s hand  by selling dope (yes I was a fairly successful drug dealer once upon a time)  My knowledge of self allowed me to enter work spaces and offices like Othello the Moor not Chicken George. For people who did not grow up in the neighborhood and or  family environment you grew up in knowledge of self is essential to make a change. Again you don’t have to agree with every thing Tariq says or send him any money…ive never sent him a dime nor do I agree with every thing in the Hidden Colors serious but the bulk of it does what’s needed and that’s instill pride in a people who lack it and  a proud person works hard and conducts themselves in a stand up fashion

Hillary For Prison1 month ago

+Hugh Cipher – Totally disagree; it’s all about choice. Most people in poor neighborhoods have solid morals. It’s all about one’s value system and has 0 to do where income level or zip code. Drugs are everywhere; not just in poor Black communities. If it’s so much worse in the poor, Black communities, then white folks when be killing themselves at much higher rates than poor people and/or Black people? It makes no difference if a woman (or man) is a prostitute via a high priced agency or in a back alley. Tariq is abusive and disrespectful toward women and other people; don’t care about his film and won’t support it; he used women in scantily clad clothes to promote it . He’s a fraud, just like umar johnson.

The Coon strikes again

                      

CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe1 month ago

+Hillary For Prison Damn right tariq is a fraud and a biggot retard…ty brother

I Bite

Hugh Cipher

Hugh Cipher1 month ago

+CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe brother what is your damage?

CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe

CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe1 month ago

+Hugh Cipher Hes an American brother unlike the anarchist like blm tariq and many others who want to undermine this great republic. My father served this nation and I did as well. Racist who want to destroy progress of uniting our fellow man in this country need to find some place elsewhere. Martin luther marched with white and black and if pro black domestic terrorist dont get that then they will be left behind in this modern era. I have to thank liberals white, black, or whoever for helping trump get elected.😀 The more racist and retarded you guys sound the more it helped trump get elected and also in the now…ty. I want help for the innercity. Thank god obamatard will be gone. Time to usher in a new goldenage of prosperity for all of America…☺ Thats my positive damage😊

Hugh Cipher

+CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe no thats your “positive delusion” Those white folks who arse your kissing won’t stop discriminating against “you” because you wear a red white & blue do rag & vomit pro #trumpism’s. Im fighting for all my people  not just a select few who bow down & get patted on the head & id have to ask what is your pro whitey kumbaya philosophy doing for you? You dont appear to be terribly afluent. At least you could reap the usual benifits toms get for selling their bretheren out. Hey my grand father & dad served in ww2 & Vietnam respectively so thats even more reason to demand I be treated equally in this country. Also liberals didn’t help #trump get elected. White racist reaction to a Black man winning the presidency twice is what got Donald “#chump” elected.

Hugh Cipher

Hugh Cipher1 month ago (edited)

+CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe oh by the way i checked +Hillary For Prison past post & she’s a married female not a “an American brother” unless he’s in a gay marriage which i doubt

Now for some reason this pushed this bed wench bitch over the edge because she blocks me then  types

(Now this is where this bitch goes over board and calls me a sex offender)

Hillary For Prison

Hillary For Prison1 month ago

By I checked HughCipher’s profile and background. He’s a Black male who’s was so into under-aged white boys he got busted; and now has to register as a SEX OFFENDER. Now he’s riding Tariq’s putrid pole. He changed colors of his surgar britches preferences but he continues to pork dudes and vice-versa.

(Ok now you know I wanna e-slap this bitch thru the screen right. I think she got upset because I questioned if she was a man or woman but I actually wasn’t sure)

she then type to her coon in arms

Hillary For Prison

Hillary For Prison1 month ago

+CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe -LOL LOVE the response. I blocked that dumb ass SOB. Hugh c. after he posted that LIE he never read anywhere about me nor did I ever tell him.I don’t even know the crazy mthr fkr. He just got mad after he couldn’t hang in a debate and I made it clear I never have/never will kiss Tariq’s azz. He’s the kind who can dish it out but can’t take it!

She talks about not being able to take it but she totally ran from the debate and tried to smear me with out my knowledge. Luckily people I know pulled my coat to this bitches fuckery. What lie she’s talking about I don’t know. To see if she was a he or her I checked her earlier post and saw her state sshe was married earlier in the thread. What she’s talking about here I have noooo idea

So now its just me and the Coon.

+CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe you say this as if being proud to be Black is un American….this is the thinking of the alt-right White

CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe 

+Hugh Cipher Your a Racist you wouldn’t know…

CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe 

+Hugh Cipher being black unAnmerican??????? No being black is your racist narrative. SIMPLY PUT YOU😜 BELIEVE BLACKS ARE OWED AND SLAVERY IS YOUR CARD TO SAY THE PAST IS YOUR MAKER…I CALL BULLSHIT.!!! ARE THERE ANY WHITE SLAVE MASTERS TODAY MAKING YOU PICK COTTON AND SEPERATING YOUR FAMILY? YES OR NO? Are you under a master now like literally? Let me know ill call the police. Give me your location ill tell the 911 operator im serious. 😯Did the white supremist guard go on break? Ill get some retard pro black nigtards to plan a escape route before your white supremist guard gets back. He will be slow by the way from his sub sandwich😁…hes enjoying at lunch on his American break from racist libtardians.

+CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe man stop being silly. “No being Black is your racist narrative” wtf🤔 are you frakkin serious? You actually typed that shyt? Being Black is my & your reality. Talk about delusional.  Of course our people are owed reparations. You dont see Jews or the Japanese saying to Germany & the Americans government “naw naw thats cool yall fuck us over took all our shyt locked us up & killed 6 million of us but naw hey yall can keep the $ that you gave us as a sign of respect & an attempt to help those who lost so much”

Do you deny Nixon did this? Report: Nixon aide says war on drugs targeted blacks

cnn.com – Report: Nixon’s war on drugs targeted black people

Do you deny the cia did this? Key Figures In CIA-Crack Cocaine Scandal Begin To Come Forward | The Huffington Post

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5961748

Do you deny we got no 40 acres nor mule  & Reconstruction took away the political gains we eeked out shortly after emancipation? http://ushistoryclassroom.blogspot.com/2012/01/effects-of-reconstruction-on-african.html?m=1

Ill stop here but humor me answer me these queries & answer me if Jews & Japanese received reparations for shyt that only lasted 7 to 12 yrs why shouldn’t Afro Americans get reparations for something that lasted 400?

Needless to say this closet queer coon ran from answering so I pestered him with it again and he finally responds…

                      

 CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe 

CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe3 weeks ago

+Hugh Cipher Okay so what? What does it matter? Every white human is responsible? Lol. Come on man give me a little intelligence so I can engage. I see your narrative but your not telling me why your making every white human responsible who had nothing to do with nixon today? Your in a box but saying everyone is responsible for others actions. I dont get ur narrative using common sense😮 Still what is the solution? Its not fair to use the past and make new born babies responsible. You got to be smarter then this. Your blowing me away with the thinking…Ive had so many white people who have just lent a hand and didnt even know me. Humans have the gift of god in general. Ive met whites who have done me wrong, spanish and black. And we all culturely are not perfect. So do I now hate all human beings born of God? Im just using basic commonsense with you. If your to ignorant and use grade school antics then I cant conversate with you. Find another that will fall into your narrative please…

(Can you believe this dude…an actual Black man looked at all those facts and said “so what”..sad and scary)

Hugh Cipher

Hugh Cipher3 weeks ago

+CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe now your putting words in my mouth conflating my argument with what you assume I think. When & where do i say “every” white person is responsible for this systems evils? Where do i say I hate “every” White person? Al it takes is the elite who control this system, & a high % of Whites who ignore those evils or support them i.e.: all those Donald #chump  supporters. The only argument of mine your beating is the false one your creating. A whole lot of White people voted for #Hilary  & are called libratards by your White quasi racist & uber racist friends. I’m cool with those White folks. they don’t deny the truth & the effects of all the systemic fuckery this system has & is implementing

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So that was the gist of this whole argument. I was gob smacked at the conviction these Toms had in their belief system. A belief system that consist of them hating those Afro-Americans who’s development has been stagnated by this countries systemic racism. They have a belief system that consist of swallowing the racism Whites perpetuate and deflecting any blame back upon the victims. These people always have a core seed of self hate. Most are usually intelligent and have achieved moderate success in this system.(although I doubt CuRrUpt SyStEm SLaVe  has any real money. The do-rag he wears kinda gives away his economic status…but I could be wrong) They fall under the false belief that since they are successful or come from a successful family all other Afro-Americans should be able to achieve this success also. They don’t understand that they’ve benefited from a more positive environment, were raised in house hold that fell in a higher social economic bracket or they had mentors and other aspects of a support structure that helped them survive the utter and total stagnation Blacks in this countries many ghettos become victim of. It is these factors and the fact that just as roach spray only kills a certain percentage of roaches so does White supremacy’s chief weapon systemic racism only effect a majority of oppressed peoples allowing a smaller percentage to escape, rise above or suffer minimally from its effects. Also being a coon or an “Uncle Tom” main purpose is to tap dance, be submissive and agreeable so that “Massa” doesn’t oppress you as hard as he oppresses those rebellious “niggers”(you will notice when the White man isn’t upset he call you colored,coon ,ect but when Black folk do anything Whitey doesn’t like and goes against t his own belief system he is quick to yell nigger) I am a Black man born in the ghettos on the west coast of this Babylon. I’ve risen over much and could easily be one of these people who feel my less fortunate brothers and sisters are naturally lazy and un motivated and if only if they did what I did they could be successful too. Luckily I have a strong grasp of psychology and human dynamic and under stand most of my brothers and sisters in the “hood” fell victim to White Supremacy’s plot from birth. Being born into a family with low regard for reading and or any form of  education is all it takes. Low wages and a drug filled environment only exasperates this foul circumstance. It angers me when I see these “Tom” types expound rhetoric that implies our fellow brothers and sisters are inherently stupid and lazy and they themselves are inherently  “special and different” when the only thing special about them is they represent that .001% of germs not killed by the germicide of White supremacy and systemic racism

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